Trade

Opening a meat distribution centre

Q: I intend opening a meat shop and distribution centre in a town some two hours from Cape Town insha Allah. My supplier is strictly halaal. As I will not slaughter any animals myself and will only pass on/sell to the public, do I need a halal certificate displayed in my meat shop or is a notice of the above procedure displayed in my shop adequate?

Forex trading

Q:

1. I want to say one more thing here that trading in gold online is a forex trading. It is like shares of gold. If I buy it, I will get like gold lots/shares (electronic form) and when I will sell it, my broker will sell those shares (gold lots) to forex. and I will get money. So gold rate in forex are changing by international market rates. And I am not selling these electronic gold every day, it will be once in a month or after 15 days. Mean it is not like everyday game as I saw shares are not allowed if done on daily basis but long term are permissible in Islam.

2. As or the possession, I am believing that if I have gold or as form of shares in my electronic account, I have possession of it and when my broker sell to other company, possession is given to the new buyer or forex company. And if you emphasize that physical possession is necessary, can you please tell me in the shadow of hadith or Quran verses where it is clearly mentioned that physical possession or just possession?

3. What is the punishment of eating Haram on day of judgement? Is it depends on Allah will? Like many sins will depend on Allah, if he wants, he will forgive them but the sins like haqooq al ibaad, only we need to clear them with other people.

Selling an item before taking possession of it

Q: Salmaan owns a grocery store. Ismail phoned him and purchased a pack of long life milk from him. After concluding the sale on the phone, Ismail did not take possession of the milk but instead sold the milk to Bakr and asked Salmaan to deliver the milk directly to Bakr instead of bringing it to his store. Is it correct for Ismail to sell the milk to Bakr before taking possession of it?

Online Forex trading

Q: It is right, you can't sell what you don't possess. But in online trading you actually not dealing with any party directly. It is new technology and electronic trading. The possession of gold is in electronic form. I have a lot of gold I purchased and I can sell that gold through a broker to any person in the world. The electronic possession of gold will be given to the other person and the cash transfer will also take place and I will get my money (profit or loss) through the broker and the person who is buying will also pay the broker. You are not deceiving or lying to anyone. You deal with the broker directly and the broker is known to every trader. In online trading with broker, actually you get possession of that thing in a system which we are going to sell. Every buy should be closed with selling and every selling should be closed with buying. It is new technology online trading. Buying something itself in the system has the physical possession which is online possession because as I sell it, it becomes changed to money which I get (profit or loss). A more easy example is, there is one dealer who is taking care of my gold, and I say him to sell my gold, and he gives me money back. If I want more gold, I purchase and keep with him, which he takes care online (broker). In broker record, I have the possession of that gold electronically (but not physically). I don't see my gold physically but electronically I have possession of that gold and when I want to sell it, I get my money back. In my understanding, in physical business why you can't sell something until it comes in possession because that thing can be defective or have flaws and if you sell, the other person will have a disadvantage and it comes with deceiving and lying. Here you are not deceiving or lying to anyone. It's like a knowledge and study. Good performer gains money and bad performer loose money or depends on the gold market price rates.

Dealing in gold

Q: There is a company that carries out gold trading. I will pay them some amount and they will open a gold account for me. Gold rates are linked with the real gold rates which are current internationally. When I buy gold from my money, this gold is not physical. Rather, it is just the value of the gold that reflects. If I want to sell that gold, I can get my money back (not the gold) to my account. It could be profit or loss.